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You never know who someone really is until you travel with them.
0:00 Intro
2:03 I refused my friend joining my trip https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/1depztu/aita_for_refusing_when_my_friend_wanted_to_join/
15:52 I left my friend in the middle of the Grand Canyon https://www.rareddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/1fdgtkv/aita_for_parting_with_my_friend_midway_through_a/
29:09 My gf wants to go camping alone with another guy https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/2bc160/my_24_m_girlfriend_21_f_wants_to_go_on_an_out_of/
41:46 Traveling overseas to meet my bf but he cancels https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/9vlueu/i_29f_am_traveling_overseas_to_meet_my_online/
49:50 I left a couples trip in the middle of the night https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/v8ppzf/aita_for_leaving_a_couples_trip_in_the_middle_of/
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00:00:00
Hello, welcome to Reddit Stories. I'm Shane and today it's all about travel and I'm joined by two
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weary travelers Ian and Amanda. Hello. So, these stories are all about travel. We've done travel
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stories before. A lot of drama happens in regards to travel, you know, who you go on a trip with,
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how trips go, planes, passport, bros. We did travel stories together. Yeah. Here, right here,
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on Reddit. Now we're doing it again. Have you recently traveled at all? You know I have. Yeah, okay.
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Yes, I've traveled a lot this year. I went to Florida. Oh wow. I went to Cape Cod and then I
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went to Greece. And you talked about this on Smoshmouth, but going on your trip with your family,
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there was a little bit of drama here. There's four sisters and one mother. That's five
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Portuguese women in one place. A lot of. All trying to choose dinner. That's a lot. Where did you
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travel to? Well, my passport was expired for a whole year. Wow. Yeah. What? How did you let that
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happen? It just happened. One day, I looked at my passport and I went, oh, this is old.
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So, I, and then, you know, like, I didn't want to, like, I tried to get it renewed and like,
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went to FedEx and I was like, I heard you guys renew passports and they're like, no, we don't.
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And I was like, okay, so it just kind of sat in my room for a while. And then I did it online.
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It was super, super easy. Whoa, really? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I took my passport photo here at the office
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with like, crappy light and they accepted it. Oh, like Smosh? Yeah. Photo doesn't look great,
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but I got my passport, so I'm ready to travel the world. Where are you going? Are you going to go
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somewhere? Have you planned? I want to go to Austria, but I feel like I kind of like, I want to go like
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when it's like green and there's waterfalls and I feel like now it's probably gotten snowy.
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Our first one comes from Am I the Asshole? Am I the Asshole for refusing when my friend wanted to
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join my fiancee and I on our first trip together? Here I'm out. I, a 22 year old woman and my
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fiancee, a 23 year old man, are going on our first trip together. I'm really excited as this is my
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first time on a plane and even leaving the state I've lived in my whole life. We've been planning
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for this trip since earlier this year and we've gotten our tickets as well as accommodations.
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Altogether, we've already spent about $4,500 on everything, which has been something we've been
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saving for as we're both college students. Our trip is in about a month and income is my friend,
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we'll call her Ashley, she's 22, who's been my friend for about a year. She'd brought up going to
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Japan as well, kind of jokingly, when we told her about the trip. I didn't think she was serious,
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but then she brought it up a few more times, even saying that she had a family member she could stay
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with. She asked if she could spend some time during the days joining us on our adventures while this
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family member was at work. I was supportive of this idea as I know this would be her first time in
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Japan as well and I care about her. However, when she told me she wanted to get the tickets,
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her family member no longer would have space for her to stay. She wants to know if she can stay in
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our accommodations and join us on our flight back home. I let her know that our accommodation has
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strict rules against having more than two people and there's only one small bed in this studio. She said
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she'd been fine sleeping anywhere on the floor or couch, etc. I told her I'd be more comfortable
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if we didn't chance a fee or getting in trouble in general as I really just want a comfortable stay.
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I told her that we're still willing to spend time with her during the day and I began sending
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her accommodations in her budget. I was hoping this would be enough. Instead, she's just asking if we
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can cancel our accommodations and pay for larger accommodations that can have a bed for her as well.
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Mind you, she's not saying she will help us pay for the more expensive accommodation or anything
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else for that matter. She simply just wants to stay with us and for us to pay for a different
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accommodation. It seems like no matter what I say, she just keeps trying to manipulate me into
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letting her stay with us. This is also hard because I know my fiance and I really wanted this
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to be a romantic trip. For us both, as we likely won't be able to afford another for a few years
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as we finish school, I'm just stuck on what to say or do and if I'm the asshole here,
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should I be okay with my friends staying in our accommodations and joining in our trip?
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I can't with this one. Wow. I mean, it's 'cause they're 22. I mean, come on.
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I think there's just like zero self-awareness. Some people just aren't self-aware. I think, yes,
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I agree, but also immediately would have been like, no. Yeah, oh. Yeah, it's no. I don't understand
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also, even from the start of this, and it's like, oh yeah, my fiance and I are going on our first
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trip together. The thought of going, can I join? Yeah, I want to see. As a joke. Well, that sounds
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really cool. I'll see you on the floor. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, and this isn't the first time we've
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had stories where people are going on a trip and someone is like, can I join your trip to out of
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country? I understand being invited on someone's trip, but to, unless it's like- People do a lot.
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Unless it's siblings or like your absolute best friend. Yeah, I don't understand. I would never-
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I would never do that. I tried to come to Greece with her and her sister. Yeah, and I was like,
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you can't, because the accommodations are so strict. And then when you were there in Greece,
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all of a sudden it was like, wait, who's this fourth sister? I'm like, and it was. I am a
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sister of a canto. Fifth sister. That would have been five sisters. Fifth sister. And one mother,
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that would have six people. And your mom was like, eating my baby daughter for years. And you want
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to go to dinner in? And this short canto. Um, canto. Canto. Uh, I can't believe this. I mean,
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there's the thing, people weirdly do that. They'll be like, oh my god. Well, we've always wanted to
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go to Japan and maybe we'll meet you there. I'll meet you there. Yeah. It's always this weird,
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tricky thing. And it just, the worst thing to do is to be like, no, you cannot come to this country
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that I have no ownership of. But also, no. Well, and the prospect of like being on a trip to a
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country, and if you have friends who are also going to be there around the same time, but you're
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doing- Sure. You're going on two separate trips to the same place is what it originally sounded like.
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So it's like, oh, I have a family member there. I'll go stay with them. But as soon as that doesn't
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work, it's like, oh, then I'm sorry, your trip is not working out. Oh, you were never on our trip
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to Japan. Also, this is her first time leaving the state, getting on a plane. That's super special.
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It's super special and she wants to spend it with her fiancee. Also put two and two together.
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You're not going to sleep on the floor in their small accommodations. Yeah, they don't fuck. Like,
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that's what I was going to say. Sorry. And then I thought I was going to get a little worse. I would
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watch that. Like, if I'm, if I'm talking to friends, even if, if this had all been planned,
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and I was invited to go with them, I probably would have said no. I'd have been like, oh, well,
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I have to find my own accommodations. I'm not staying in the same room as a couple. You imagine
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sleeping on the floor and then going like, no kissing. Guys, I can hear you. What are you guys doing?
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Yeah, ew. The blankets are all moving and your legs are in the air.
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And then they wake up and they wake up in the middle of the night and I'm standing at the foot of
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the bed. And I'm just like, I fold up. I fold up a lot of times. I don't feel good. Because like, it does
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kind of remind me of when I was in Japan for one reason and you and Damien were in Japan for another
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reason. Yeah. Oh. And we were in Tokyo at the same time and we met up. Yeah. You know, we met
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up a few times, but it was like, great. We had our own thing that we were doing. Totally. And
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we met up in Kauai. Yeah, we did. Yeah, lunch. We're on the same. Yeah, it happens to always be.
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That's so weird. Actually, he was in Florida. He was surfing on a wave and I was like, hello.
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He's there in the lake like an alligator. Amanda. Um, I think what's happening here is OP is
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similar to me where they're afraid of confrontation. They're afraid of saying no to someone. Yeah,
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but maybe you would have said no, though. Oh, yeah. Well, because at a certain point too,
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you get to the point where you go, Oh, I just know. I don't think this is a big deal. This is not
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offensive to say no. So if they're offended, that's their problem. Yeah. But it's just no. It's just
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simply no. Um, and I think it's not too late for them to even go. You know what? We kind of
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actually want this to be a romantic thing for just the two of us. I think we're going to go do our
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own thing. Yeah. And we don't really want to. Here's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking OP's friend.
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It seems like stepping on egg shells because if they're that close, it seems like the friend gets
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mad about and also remember, there's always a friend who's gets kind of either cool or upset with a
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couple. It's kind of always like a weird line there. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Not the asshole in my
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opinion. Oh, definitely not. Definitely. Yeah. Comments here, not the asshole, but you will be if
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you allow her to go. This was to be a romantic trip for you and your boyfriend. She invited herself
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claiming she had someone she could stay with. This was probably false all along and she waited until
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the last minute to ask if she could stay with you, thinking she could guilt you into it.
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Then when you told her no, she wanted you to pay for a larger accommodation so she could stay,
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but she offered you no money. Chances are she has also she also has no money for accommodations or
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food and plan to mooch off you and your boyfriend and all your sightseeing and meals. Just tell her
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no, you are not willing for her to join at all. Maybe sometime in the future, but this is just a trip
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for you and your boyfriend. That could all be true. I also don't we don't know. Some people are also
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there are people out there who are just traveling. Unaware. Yeah. Unaware and totally just like
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not thinking things through. Yeah. I'm not saying that's what this commenter is saying isn't true.
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It could be, but that wouldn't be my initial thought. It also doesn't matter. You say no. Yeah.
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Someone else said not the asshole, but this is a no-brainer. You aren't being honest with her. Stop
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using accommodations as an excuse and tell her the truth. This is your first trip with your fiance.
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The two of you have planned it carefully for just the two of you. Your plans are final. They cannot
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be changed. You look forward to traveling with her in the future, but not on this trip. If she was
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truly a close friend, she would have had the good sense not to try and force herself on you.
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You haven't known her very long at all. You may just now be seeing her the real her. If she
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doesn't drop the subject immediately, then drop her. She's an acquaintance, not a friend. Oh, so that's
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proper. Let's see. Did they? I thought it was the best friend. Yeah, it comes. In comes my friend,
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Ashley, who's been a friend about a year. Oh, that's a lot for after a year. A year, maybe it's not
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like every day kind of friend. That's shocking, though, for that quick. I think, but I think like the
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like mooching thing like kind of like has me a little bit like I somewhat now with it with that
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amount of time that they're also still in college, they said. Yeah, yeah. Something that I also think
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their behavior where they're they're trying to find physical reasons why this person can't come on.
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It seems like this is someone who's not respecting her feelings because you know, it's okay to use
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your feelings as a reasoning for something. Being like, you know, I just I want this to be my husband
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and I. Yeah, that's my reasoning. It's not that our accommodation. We could be staying in a five room
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hotel room. Easy. But I want it to just be my husband and I. But this she's clearly. She's clearly
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afraid of using just her emotions because this person clearly is going to go. That's not a reason.
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Like, yeah, no, this person's not respecting. It has to tell her. Lastly, someone said, Ashley,
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it seems like a lot of things you were counting on for this trip are falling through. I think you'd
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better try again later when things line up for you. fiance and I will be taking this couple's trip
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without you. Yeah, I'd like that's what she should say. Yeah, I mean, I totally agree with what you're
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saying about like just speaking to your feelings about just being like, I want this to be my husband
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and I. Yeah. And that's and there's no real wiggle room with that. Yeah, and if you can't respect
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that then that's fucked up. Then you're not going to be friends for very long. Please tell me there's
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an update. Update. Oh, okay, what do we think? Do we think it's a mooching situation? Or do we think it's?
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Okay, I think the roommate, I think I think the two of them went there and the roommate was at the hotel
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like, hey guys. That's what you do. Yeah, but I mean, it's our fun little thing, man. I know it's our
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thing that we have. We're on the fight to Kauaii and I and I was walking down the island and went,
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that really happened. That really did happen. He doesn't care. I care. Doesn't seem like I care. It seems
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like you don't not listen to our feelings. Yeah, Jane. Jane. Let's all go to Japan. You know, feelings matter,
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feelings matter in these situations. Yeah, I think there's some like jealousy with the girl. Yeah,
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the girls getting married and maybe she's not. She's like, well, I'm your friend too and like,
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we always do things together and then he came along. But then again, I know, but maybe she's in love.
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I was kind of reading this through thinking like this is a 10-year friend. No, which makes a lot
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more sense, but a year in. It's either that or mooching. Can I have both options? Sure. Okay. All right,
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I ended up refusing for the 10th time and told her no bluntly and as clearly as possible.
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I also made sure to say that I wasn't down with changing anything and that I want to spend time
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with only my fiancee that I've been trying to nicely say no, but I don't appreciate getting
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manipulated nor having my partners and eyes feelings ignored. She said, we've been talking about
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this trip for so long. Why didn't we just work it out earlier? It's not my fault that this is the
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that this is last minute. Why won't you just do this one? It's not much different. There's just an
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extra bed and she sent me a link to a specific accommodation where the two beds are side by side
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just by the way. She basically ignored what I said so I have ignored her since. We're in the same
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friend group so I think it's probably going to get weird, but honestly I'm okay with that. Regardless
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of how that goes, my fiancee and I will be going alone and not meeting up with her or anyone
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anywhere during our trip. I'm going to work on the saying no thing and setting harder boundaries.
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I just had an abusive upbringing and I'm still working on it all. I keep needing to remind myself
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that I'm not in that place anymore. She's not the only 22-year-old out there who's really bad at
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saying no. Like I was horrendous at it at that age. I had to come up with all these reasons to say
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no to people instead of just saying no. It's okay. Well it's hard because some people make you feel bad
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about being honest. Yeah. Also the two beds together like girl move on. Yeah what the hell? Move on.
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10 times. I cannot stand people who don't take no for an answer. It is enough of a reason for me
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to slowly drift away from someone because it's like the most basic form of disrespect that people
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can do is like you go like oh no thanks and then they're just like yeah but I'm not going to listen to that.
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You're not really like thinking about this. It's just like hey man just listen to that. Truly. That's all.
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That's all. Tell me there's pictures of them in Japan. No. Did they have a good time?
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Whoa. Did I get a picture? Did I miss the girl in the background like this?
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Like a grudge. Well that's all right. That's it. Wow. She did the right thing. She did the right thing.
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Okay. Yes. We're happy for her. Our next story is a doozy. Let's go. I've read this one.
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Okay here we go. This was on Am I the asshole and it got reposted onto Am I the devil?
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So this is a real piece of shit here. Am I the asshole for parting with my friend midway through a
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Grand Canyon hike? Sorry. Partying or partying? Partying. Partying. I am parting ways with you now. From my
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friend. Do you imagine partying in the middle of the Grand Canyon? Okay. That's fair. Set up
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speakers and lights. Oh, sick. Partying in the Grand Canyon. Would be so. Yeah. I want to do that.
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Unless there's a flash flood. Yeah. Yeah. My friend Crystal and I spent six months planning and
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training for a very intense all day hike of the Grand Canyon. We would go down South Kaibob and
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up Bright Angel on Crystal's birthday in June, which would be over a hundred degrees. Two
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weeks before the hike our friend Valerie said she wanted to join us. Valerie looks way fitter than
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us. She does crossfit and has a six pack and we assume she would be fine. On the trip leading up to
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the hike Valerie was eating salad while Crystal and I were carb loading with pasta and pizza.
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Crystal and I each bought four liters of water, trail mix and granola bars and believed Valerie
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had packed her bag with the same as it was all in the hotel room for all of us to share when we
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packed up the night before. About half the way down Crystal and I realized that at the pace Valerie
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was going and thus the rest of us we would not finish the hike before sundown. We told Valerie
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about our concerns and she said we should just hike ahead without her and that she would either catch
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up or if it was too much turn back. We asked if she was really sure about it and she said she was
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so off we went. When we got to the bottom of the canyon we waited for about an hour at the Colorado
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River but did not see her. At that point we really had to get going so we would finish the trail
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before nightfall. We tried to call her from a pay phone but got her voicemail, none of us had
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reception. We explained the situation to a ranger and they said they'd look out for her.
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When we were close to the top and it was actually already dark we got reception and got messages from
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her that she had collapsed and had to stay at the lodge at the bottom of the canyon. The lodge is
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booked months out but I guess they hold some emergency beds. She would hike out the next day with another
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group and said not to worry about her. Both Crystal and I were totally destroyed physically but we
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got in the car, went and demolished a pizza, then went to sleep at the hotel. Oddly we found half
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of Valerie's water and all of Valerie's food at the hotel. I don't want to make too many assumptions
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about her but I think it's clear enough to say that it seemed clear she didn't know how to eat
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during or before a hike despite our guidance. The next day Valerie said she would be up by 3pm.
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I was planning to pick her up. However the one update we got from her was that she would be hours late.
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6pm rolled around and she still wasn't up. I left her voicemail letting her know we needed to continue
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onto our next hotel one hour away. We were both feeling really beat up and I didn't think I would
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have the energy to do the drive much later. I told her in the voicemail that I'd pay for her to
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uber to the hotel. Just tell me how much it was. At around 10pm Valerie called me furious.
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It took her over 13 hours to hike up and she almost didn't make it. She was suffering from
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sunstroke. She said she could have died because we abandoned her and we were really selfish not to stay
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with her. Okay. The dumbest. I'm in a nightmare right now. So all of the stupidness is allowing
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her to go on this. Because people who don't hike regularly probably underestimate how intense it is.
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Also the Grand Canyon, I think for a lot of people they think like oh it's a you hike down
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into the canyon back up. It's like it's massive. That's like what? 3,000? It's gigantic. I'd be
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honest. I hike to the Grand Canyon when I have seven. It was easy. In cats. There's home video of it.
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Fuck yeah. And I was like mom why didn't you pack me good shoes? She was like I forgot. We also don't
00:19:26
know which. We also don't know which hike they're doing. Exactly. It sounds like they're doing an
00:19:31
aggressive one. I think it was called Blue Angel. Yeah. South Kaibob to whatever angel. But this is the
00:19:37
thing. They're like oh she's really fit. It's like yeah but there's a batter. And then there's like
00:19:41
hiking cross fate. There's a dirt's fit. I mean unless she needs to do a bunch of
00:19:45
on the ledge. We have to climb up the side of the cliff and she's just like leaving it up.
00:19:52
She's just a clear. It's a completely like it's its own unique thing. I mean it's really wasn't
00:19:58
prepared. It was really dumb of them to accept. Like they should have been like no like I'm sorry
00:20:02
this we've been planning this for months. We've been training for months. We don't feel comfortable
00:20:07
bringing on someone that she didn't train with them. No. This is two weeks before. That's dangerous.
00:20:13
Super dangerous. No it's like I'm sorry. This is also a hundred degree weather. An intense hike.
00:20:19
Yes. We have to be accountable for each other. I don't think it was great for them to leave her
00:20:24
behind. I was going to say no. Oh no no no. Leaving her behind is the dumbest thing of it all. Even if
00:20:30
she said leaving behind you never know someone along. No. No. It's a hundred degrees. You're doing
00:20:35
an intense hike and you know better than anybody. I know that anyone because my brother and I got
00:20:40
lost on a hike once. But you it's one of the rules. You don't go off trail and you don't leave
00:20:45
anyone alone. Ever. And the second they had that because but she's not an experienced hiker.
00:20:51
She's going oh no go on without me. At that point they go no we have to turn back. We simply
00:20:56
have to. We're not going to make it there. We three are one unit. We're not going to make it
00:21:01
together. Yeah. We're turning back. Yeah. I'm sorry. Sorry. Was this so then was this like a loop?
00:21:06
It wasn't like an out and back. I it sounds like an out and back to me because they would
00:21:10
have passed her in that case. Oh you're right. So it was. It was. It was. It was a loop. And maybe it's it's
00:21:16
down one side out the well they went down to the Colorado River and then they must have gone up
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and they go off a different side. That took her 13 hours. Yeah. Well yeah it's probably
00:21:26
hiking. Also it's a sunstroke. It's a sunstroke dude. She was fucked. Oh absolutely destroyed.
00:21:31
And they they left her twice because they get up they they they have been her there which is
00:21:36
really dumb. They get to the bottom they go well we got to keep going. They've been
00:21:39
in her again. And then at the top they're like well we got to get to our next hotel. They have
00:21:43
been in her three times. Yeah. That's crazy. Why do you have to get to your next go? They're like we
00:21:48
got to go smash a pizza dude. Demolish a pizza honey. Demolish. No they're they're really in
00:21:53
considerate like this is why it's dumb. It's like you clearly didn't care that much about bringing
00:21:58
this person on your hike. Also getting an uber from somewhere near the Grand Canyon. Like what?
00:22:05
Choose to your next hotel. That's gonna cause more than just booking a new host. We're in the middle.
00:22:11
We're in the middle of nowhere. Yeah get an uber. Just wait for her like just just literally wait
00:22:17
and be like hey we're not gonna arrive till 10 p.m. Our friend has fucking heatstroke. Yeah this
00:22:22
is all insane. And also the fact that they're on the hike and then they were like oh we realized
00:22:26
like we gave her guidance and she didn't bring anything. It's like before you leave that morning
00:22:30
be like what's in your pack. Yeah. What are you bringing. Show us what's in your pack. Like straight up
00:22:35
though. I'm like you guys didn't actually give much of a shit about it. No they're like oh she didn't
00:22:39
pack well. Here we go. It's like this is it's mind blowing to me. Yeah. I mean like she could have
00:22:45
died. Like straight up could have died. Yeah. This is what could have realistically happened.
00:22:50
They abandoned her. She's by herself and she just falls like falls somewhere and she's by herself.
00:22:55
Like that's what happens. Like when my brother and I got lost and we were lost for like a whole day
00:23:00
I was immediately realizing like it was such a wake-up call for me of like what's actually scary
00:23:06
in nature because I was not scared of bears or wolves or anything. Bad ass. No you're not. You're
00:23:11
scared of running out of water. Well we did run out of water very quickly. You're scared of falling.
00:23:16
Which was like oh I since then since getting lost. I'm like I'm bringing so much fucking water
00:23:21
with me. Yeah. But also I'm like if I just fall and break my ankle. Yeah. And I'm like and now my
00:23:27
brother has to just go on for hours and find someone and then come back and find my exact location.
00:23:33
That is so scary. Like I was like oh that's that's how you die in the middle of nowhere.
00:23:37
That's why you never leave someone by themselves. No. This is so scary. This is the Grand Canyon.
00:23:42
Lots of people die in the Grand Canyon. Oh my god yeah. What's 100 degrees? And it's it's it's
00:23:48
treacherous. This is maybe the dumbest story I've ever read on this. I mean everybody was pretty
00:23:53
dumb. There's a lot of stupidness but these experienced hikers. Yeah they should have
00:23:58
known. Leaving someone by themselves who they know as an inexperienced hiker is the crazy thing.
00:24:01
Sounds like they weren't experienced because if they were they would never leave someone behind.
00:24:05
That's true they trained but I don't think they're they trained for themselves. Yeah I don't
00:24:10
even know how they they could walk off and be fine with it. I bet you I bet she was embarrassed and
00:24:16
was like please go. Totally. And even if it gets to that point it's like no. But it's just a hardline
00:24:22
rule. It's a hardline rule of you just don't do that. Yeah especially especially these conditions.
00:24:29
100 degrees. I don't care where you are. You could be like anywhere and if it's 100 degrees
00:24:35
you're not going to leave someone behind. Yeah and also like if she was under equipped what did they
00:24:40
leave her with? Yeah well they they said they didn't until they got back to the hotel room and
00:24:45
saw that most of her food was there. Most of the water and food was there that they're like oh she
00:24:50
must not have brought anything. Didn't they all leave together? Were you not checking on her at all
00:24:54
before you left? Yeah. I just this is just shocking to me. It's just weird. They just say no to this
00:25:00
person. Like why did you do any of this? They kind of just seem like they don't give a shit about her
00:25:06
at all. No because this is their dream to do this hike. They've been training for it and that's
00:25:10
all they cared about. They had nothing. No that I've been excusing what they did. Yeah but say no
00:25:15
to her then. When she's like can I join the hike? It's two weeks out. It's like no. They can't.
00:25:19
But how old are they? It doesn't say their ages. It doesn't say their ages. I mean it has late 20s.
00:25:26
Yeah me too. Early 30s. But like obviously this wouldn't be the same level but like imagine
00:25:32
imagine if you were like training for a marathon and then like a week before I'm like yeah can I
00:25:36
join? It would just be like no man. Mile one you're like go on without me. Yes you can. Yes
00:25:42
join shame. Some comments here. I know what that means. When you were noticing she was eating salad I
00:25:48
would have stopped her immediately. Better yet don't invite people to go on difficult trails that
00:25:52
you don't know are experienced enough to have the long endurance required. Why not make sure she
00:25:57
packed her food and water? So many opportunities here to back out or advise. Since you did invite her
00:26:02
and have her as part of your group you also took the responsibility of making sure she doesn't die.
00:26:08
Never leave your team on the trail. Take her back up, send her to the hotel, anything except just leave
00:26:13
her. You're the asshole. Next time don't take people with you on potentially deadly hikes.
00:26:17
Whoa Mike drop. So true. Someone else said you're the asshole for trying to do a rim to river and
00:26:22
back a day hike in June. That's really dangerous. Whoa that's nice. Yeah the hike itself sounds insane.
00:26:28
Yeah. Yeah. Someone else said you're the asshole. That's how people die at the Grand Canyon. You
00:26:33
shouldn't have let her come. If you let her come you don't ever abandon someone like that.
00:26:37
I fully agree. Whoa getting roasted. Once you say yes they are your responsibility.
00:26:42
You're fully responsible for them. I must have done that exact hike in my cats. That must have
00:26:49
been a hike that I did. I did that. I did that barefoot and it was easy. It was actually pretty easy.
00:26:53
I was six. I climbed. And I'm pretty sure it was 110 degrees when I did it. Yeah it was just
00:26:58
crazy. And like the Colorado River was washing so we had to swim across. And I went in
00:27:03
fucking nose dive in there. Yeah and I didn't know a problem. Yeah it was pretty easy. I even caught a fish
00:27:07
while I was down there. Oh with my teeth. Yeah. Yeah it was like 150 degrees but I didn't have any water
00:27:14
but I was fine. Yeah. So anyways what's going on with these teeth? Oh so dumb. Is there an update?
00:27:21
No. They got heat stroke from all that roasted. Yeah baby. Straight up. Nice. I can't believe that dude.
00:27:28
Yeah that's that is dumb dumb dumb. So dumb. That's why when people are like you know in Kauai speaking of
00:27:34
Kauai you know how they put on the rocks like how many people died in this area. Yeah. That's what they do
00:27:39
and in in attractions are like this is how many tourists have died here. Good luck. They're not because
00:27:44
they're just like don't do dumb things. Yeah. But so many people do and then those like beautiful
00:27:51
parts of nature that is Kauai get shut down. And it's just I don't know. People underestimate nature.
00:27:57
It's I think hiking especially people underestimate because if you do it like and most of the time
00:28:02
hikes feel can feel very chill and very like oh how could that be dangerous. That was such a nice day.
00:28:08
Yeah. But it's like one small thing goes wrong and a hike turns into the deadliest shit.
00:28:14
Yep. You've ever dealt with. Yep. No when my brother and I got lost and it started off very dumb.
00:28:19
It started off with our camp is probably down there so if we cut off the trail here cut to 12 hours
00:28:27
later. So scary. Straight up did Donner party. Dude actually it was so dumb and ever since then it's
00:28:35
like never. Never. I don't care. I don't go off trail. No. Ego will get you killed. Yep.
00:28:41
Hike. Yeah. Alright moving on to our next story. Our next story is an old one. Oh 10-year-old
00:28:48
story. Yeah. But sometimes these old ones are the craziest. He's going to be talking about watching
00:28:53
the Big Bang theory. Yeah. Okay. We're watching Game of Thrones. This show is always going to be good.
00:28:59
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This comes from our relationships. This is a 24-year-old man. My girlfriend who's
00:29:07
21 wants to go on an out-of-state camping trip alone with another guy who's also 24.
00:29:13
Okay. Got it. Got it. So I love my girlfriend and I do trust her but every girlfriend I've
00:29:23
ever had has cheated on me and I'm terribly insecure about her spending alone time with someone
00:29:27
in a situation like this. We've been together for two years now. I met her my senior year of college
00:29:32
because my college town was her hometown. I moved up to her college town to live with her after
00:29:37
I graduated and I found a great job there. For months she's been talking about us going to main
00:29:41
to camp for a week for vacation with one of her best friends. Let's call him Kyle and his girlfriend.
00:29:47
I've never met Kyle since my girlfriend lives two hours from him now but she was very open with
00:29:51
me when I asked her about him. He's been one of her closest friends since middle school. They liked
00:29:56
each other for a bit through the years and the summer after she graduated high school she had sex
00:30:00
with him but it never went anywhere because she was going to school and he ended up meeting this girl.
00:30:04
His current girlfriend let's call her Anna soon after. They've been together since. So I was all
00:30:10
down for a couple's trip. Well recently I found out the week they had planned I'm being sent out
00:30:14
of state for business and can't take it off and now Kyle's girlfriend can't go either so it will
00:30:20
just be my girlfriend and Kyle on the coast of Maine camping and spending a long time together for a
00:30:25
week. I asked her what Anna thinks of this and she said she's only met Anna a few times that she knows
00:30:30
my girlfriend and her boyfriend had a sexual past but that it's okay because she trusts him and
00:30:35
knows how excited my girlfriend and him are to catch up and see a new state. I want to tell her no
00:30:41
but I can't be that boyfriend. It's the only week she has off between summer and fall semester
00:30:46
and she said her friend Kyle is moving to North Carolina for a new job in September so she will
00:30:51
probably not see him for a long long time. It wouldn't be fair to expect her to stay home her
00:30:55
her only week off from school because I have to go on a business trip either but I can't help but
00:31:00
feel it's unfair to me to run off with an old flame/current friend. It just seems really off to me.
00:31:06
I've never met this guy. I don't know his motives and he's going to be sleeping with my girlfriend
00:31:11
and our dog in a tent for a week. How do I tell her I don't want to go alone together without
00:31:16
being controlling douche fuck. Thanks Reddit. Thanks Reddit. Look here's the thing though. I get I get
00:31:23
saying it's it's it's wrong to be like you can't go on this trip. I'm telling you you can't go.
00:31:30
It's also okay I think for him to say hey I'm letting you know how I'm feeling. I'm feeling
00:31:36
really uncomfortable about. I think he should. You slept with this guy and you guys are about to
00:31:40
be in the woods together for a week. Yeah. That makes me feel a little weird makes me feel. Does it not
00:31:45
make you feel a little weird to like I think if I'm in her position I'm not going on this trip.
00:31:52
It's also we're talking about you know and this isn't fair because plenty of people who are
00:31:56
this age are not going to do stuff but it's just when you're young like and figuring yourself out
00:32:01
and just like they've been dating for like fuck it. Let's just they've been dating for two years
00:32:06
but it's just like you know they're so young and stuff and I just and he's been cheated on before.
00:32:12
It's just tricky and it's it's scary. I think like you're talking we're coming from a place of like
00:32:19
relationships that we have a lot more security in I think but for him it's it's it's definitely tricky.
00:32:28
I think he should be honest. I don't think he's I don't think he's wrong at all for feeling
00:32:31
uncomfortable. No no no. No I don't think he's wrong. I also wonder if he's not communicating how he's
00:32:38
feeling about this whole situation at all if he's like no no it's fine yeah it's fine no no it's
00:32:43
fine and like so I wonder if like she's she's going along with it because she has no idea how
00:32:49
uncomfortable it is. Exactly and I think speaking speaking anecdotally about like young relationships
00:32:56
when I was younger in relationships I think what was different was just I was bad at communicating. Yeah
00:33:02
so I was offered up a place of nervousness and I think that's often the difference when we're
00:33:05
reading stories about really young people is they're not communicating as clearly to each other
00:33:10
or being as honest because they'll doubt themselves as he's doing and so yeah I think that's possible
00:33:16
that they're just not seeing what this looks like. Here's my thing these relationships it's like
00:33:22
you want to trust your partner here's a perfect way to start trusting your partner I don't know
00:33:27
you can't gain trust by being like don't do it. Right no I do agree with that because because I
00:33:33
think like if he says you can't go then he's acting on his insecurities. Yes. She's never done
00:33:40
anything to him. Yes. That's ever made him question her her loyalty. Yes. So I think
00:33:50
so now he's already not trusting her. Yeah so like I think like he just he did explain he's like I've
00:33:56
been cheated on a bunch before so yeah he's he's being very upfront of just like I feel insecure in
00:34:01
this area. Yeah and that's totally true. He hasn't cheated on him. Yeah it's not an ideal
00:34:06
scenario like I recognize like yeah clearly they were at some point they were attracted to each
00:34:12
other and they had sex and it only ended because he met his current girlfriend. Yeah it's tricky
00:34:17
it's a tricky situation. Yeah. Would you tell her not to go? No but I would I would have
00:34:23
questions like are you guys going to be sharing a tent? What I will say because I know it is more
00:34:27
on the on popular side it's not on popular this is just but the perspective on that I know at this
00:34:34
stage in life after having been cheated on and stuff of just like if your partner is going to
00:34:38
cheat on you they're going to cheat on you. That's why I do understand what you're saying of like
00:34:43
if you cheat on me then you were going to do that and all right this is over like that's what I'm saying.
00:34:48
I get that but that's also so scary to be like all right go off and I don't think you should be like
00:34:53
go off I'm I'm strong and you should do I don't think that I think you should tell her he's like
00:34:59
I feel insecure about this I feel worried about this I'm I'm worried I have questions
00:35:05
blah blah blah blah. And you know what if he's saying like I also think it's okay especially when
00:35:10
you're young I've said this of just if if he's like I'm super uncomfortable and she's like well this
00:35:15
is who I am and I want to go on this and I maybe very different people and maybe your your perspectives
00:35:22
on on these types of boundaries and stuff are different and it's okay to break up you're you're
00:35:26
you're so young that's kind of like if you guys are just not the same types of people I understand
00:35:31
you've been together for two years that's probably you don't want to break up you probably care
00:35:34
about each other but I don't know I've I've said it a lot of like when you're really young and if
00:35:39
you feel like who you're with is you're not seeing eye to eye now that's after communicating and
00:35:45
talking about it right talk about it make sure you're not on the same page but if you talk about
00:35:50
it clearly and then you're not on the same page it's okay to be like maybe this isn't for us
00:35:56
yeah it's totally fine uh some comments here tell her you don't feel comfortable with her going
00:36:02
alone with a guy make it about your feelings not about her cheating yep well if he responded I
00:36:06
tried this at first she just brushed it off kind of I've known him most of my life we've had these
00:36:11
plans for months just because you can't come suddenly doesn't mean I should rearrange my plans for
00:36:15
my only week off for you when you won't be around anyways I want to go hiking and see the cliffs and
00:36:20
coasts not to alope with a good friend yep that's that's probably exactly what she's thinking someone
00:36:26
said I don't know what you should do but you are not alone in thinking this is shifty and weird
00:36:31
I too would feel extremely uncomfortable with this situation yeah I don't think there's anything wrong
00:36:37
with thinking it's like we said they're they're going out alone and it's probably about as bad as
00:36:42
it can get right and also I'm trying to think of scenarios worse than this and I hear a week and
00:36:47
I'm like who a week is also a week is a long time like tonight's a long camping dream it yeah oh
00:36:52
a week a week and a tenth my god oh they will be yeah just to make sure just to see do they
00:37:01
still have it I'm just kidding um update update yeah the dog is single let's go so I was overwhelmed
00:37:13
with responses thanks everyone for the help I decided to talk to her about my feelings and see how
00:37:17
she dealt with them telling her she needed to make it a group trip and not share a tent alone with
00:37:21
him here's how it went so she comes home and she's so excited to show me the new climbing gear she
00:37:26
bought for the trip great I tell her we need to talk about the trip and Kyle and she looks a little worried
00:37:31
I preface the conversation asking more about her and Kyle's relationship from what I gathered
00:37:36
they're closer than I thought yet this actually reassures me she was his rock when his dad died and
00:37:41
he was hers when her best friend committed suicide he has a bond he has a place in her heart as a
00:37:47
lifelong friend that no one else can fill and I have one in hers as a lifelong partner that no one
00:37:52
else can either I have to suck it up and live with that she seems to really like Anna and Kyle
00:37:57
apparently really likes me from their talks they're happy the other found a great person and realize
00:38:02
they weren't compatible anyways and only tried it out out of loneliness loneliness thing after both
00:38:07
losing important people I can live with that so I tell her I know it's impractical but I don't want
00:38:12
her sharing a tent with him she says that's fine completely reasonable for me to ask and just
00:38:17
wants to make me comfortable she says she can try and pack lighter in other aspects cool so then I
00:38:23
tell her the trip itself makes me uncomfortable and why doesn't she invite someone else she mentions
00:38:28
that's okay she can invite her friend Ali who just got back from Colorado they can just bring the
00:38:34
four person tent again for them and the dog if Ali wants to go oh but Ali's a very hot very
00:38:39
promiscuous lesbian and was my girlfriend's first sexual encounter stop stop you know what you know
00:38:47
what this man should be counting his lucky stars his girlfriend sounds awesome wait I have my
00:38:51
other best friend Chris Hemsworth yeah he comes in we're we can't be it's fine no I'll invite my
00:39:01
other friend fuck fuck yeah doctor fuck fuck wow he's a doctor he makes money any single this is my
00:39:10
other friend Cassian from Akatar stop do not bring that up right now I just finished the book oh god
00:39:17
don't even bring up his name contain yourself I can't
00:39:21
uh hmm nope anyone else oh yeah her friend Taylor maybe but she'd be kind of a drag oh that's okay
00:39:30
you used to hook up with Taylor too at this point I realize it boils down to the fact that I am jealous
00:39:36
and I don't want my girlfriend alone with anyone who is attracted to her not because I don't trust her
00:39:40
but because I have this fucked up mentality that I have to prove myself and be there to claim her
00:39:44
or something if I want this relationship to work I have to force myself to get over that this
00:39:48
trip will help so I tell her that and she insists she doesn't have to go if I'm really that insecure
00:39:54
we can take baby steps and work on it together no I say I want you to go enjoy your only week off
00:39:59
you earned it so we decided we are going to drive down there next weekend to Kyle's we're going to
00:40:05
all hang out and properly meet eat some dinner drink some beers play cards against humanity then Kyle
00:40:09
and I will go out to the bars and get to know each other and she and Anna will do whatever they
00:40:13
want to do if I don't like him I tell her and we call it off I think this will really help and make
00:40:19
me comfortable in the end my girlfriend sexual past makes me uncomfortable but I'm sure mine from
00:40:23
my fraternity days scares the shit out of her too but just like I only have eyes for her now I know
00:40:28
it's the same she's still not going to sleep in the same tent as him and said she can probably rent
00:40:34
some single tents from the university outdoors club way cool you guys were all divided on weather to
00:40:39
ask her to stay or let her go but I think we found a good compromise to make us all feel better and
00:40:44
still let her go okay I mean hey look he made his decision we don't have another update so we
00:40:50
don't know what happened I will say I'm proud that he came to that on his own he literally had
00:40:55
to verbally talk it out yeah and then it's it's kind of what we said in the beginning he's going to
00:41:00
let her go because he has to move on from this stuff I think it okay I will say maybe I'm wrong
00:41:07
for this but I think it was a little craze that they were planning on sharing a tent before he
00:41:12
asked I kind of agree it's like we don't have to share a tent it's like you were gonna share a tent
00:41:16
like get your own tent I've never I've never had this type of situation I've never so for me this
00:41:22
is all hypothetical I'm very curious what our commenters will think what they would do
00:41:27
in this type of situation yeah let us know let us know move on to our next story
00:41:35
this comes from relationships I 29 year old woman I'm traveling overseas to meet my online
00:41:44
boyfriend a 38 year old man in a week he just said he had to cancel yeah because he's 65 and his
00:41:50
name is Bob and he lives it in Carolina Bob come on we gotta go he's like I'm meeting my girlfriend
00:41:58
oh sorry I met someone online through our pen pals about five months ago it started off
00:42:06
getting to know each other and it turns out we had a lot in common and we were really compatible
00:42:10
I think it's safe to say we fell for each other it quickly turned intense and we shared every
00:42:14
single intimate detail about each other we both were in serious relationships that fell through
00:42:19
but some time had gone by for us my seven year relationship ended about 10 months ago five months
00:42:24
before we met and his four year relationship ended four months before we met we text all day
00:42:29
every day and FaceTime for two to three hours every night save for maybe one or two nights a week
00:42:34
he lives in Ireland I live in the US I found an incredibly priced flight to fit to visit him
00:42:40
we were both so excited and maybe a bit rash I booked the flight only after two months of knowing him
00:42:44
he told his family about me shared photos of his family and we planned all that I'm going to do
00:42:49
and see with him at five thirty this morning I received a video message and a long text that his
00:42:54
ex girlfriend was in a serious car accident and that he would have to cancel I begged him not to
00:43:00
and I am trying to be supportive of what he's going through so far at most I've only gotten that he
00:43:04
will try that he needs to sort this out I'm freaking out that in seven days I will be in a country
00:43:10
where I don't know anyone do I cancel the flight I've been telling my friends about going on a trip
00:43:14
not really saying that I'm meeting someone I have no idea what to do now I feel sick I feel like a
00:43:20
fool I feel like everything he said to me was a lie what should I do I mean I think this is the
00:43:26
perfect opportunity to do a solo trip I mean Ireland planning a green grass yeah you know check out
00:43:33
the Guinness factory it's a lovely day for a Guinness yeah I mean like I've never been to Ireland I
00:43:39
think like make a solo trip out of a fuck that guy yeah yeah also like if he is telling the truth
00:43:46
about his ex girlfriend getting in a car accident that's really scary and sad yeah it could be real I
00:43:52
mean okay I'm a little suspicious I I don't know you know they did say they did say they're a face
00:43:58
timing yeah so he's a real person a real person yeah we know that but you just always has a filter on
00:44:04
the problem is when you're I mean I mean I've never been in a long distance relationship so I'm
00:44:08
not experienced in this so a lot of them work out in a real but I it's just there's also the
00:44:15
element of like you you don't know him in person is what he's telling you the truth right that there's
00:44:21
the possibility here I think she should go on this trip absolutely but not planned to not care if
00:44:27
she sees him yeah yeah there's plenty of stuff to do in Ireland enjoy the but how soon is how
00:44:32
that in seven days so she has seven days until or or or she could cancel it and save for when
00:44:40
things calm down a little bit and not spend all I think if she can get her money back if she can get
00:44:44
her money back yeah she can get her money back I would cancel because going on so solo trip but
00:44:49
like cancel this and then plan a trip yeah yeah okay comments I'll be honest his ex-girlfriend being
00:44:57
in a car crash a week before you come over shouldn't affect his ability to make time for you even if
00:45:02
he was to go out and see her from what I've seen of people in online relationships there's often one
00:45:07
party that bales approaching a meetup date as things are suddenly to become real this is a big
00:45:12
possibility but I'm not saying it's definitely the case I definitely wouldn't cancel unless you
00:45:17
can get a get a refund you could use this time to explore the country by yourself and turn it
00:45:21
into a good empowering experience that's what you love bitch yeah yeah you pray love in Ireland
00:45:27
someone else said everything he said likely was a lie since this is a classic catfish line just
00:45:31
because someone can FaceTime you doesn't mean every other thing about them isn't bullshit I'm
00:45:36
sorry this happened I'd still take the trip and have an excellent time find things that interest
00:45:40
you and go slash go do and see them it's an awesome opportunity to see the world and I wouldn't
00:45:46
pass it ups just because the opportunity came from a shitty situation originally if he's lying
00:45:52
about all of it and it's like she's FaceTime he's just like oh yes I'm here in Dublin and she's
00:45:58
like my Irish boyfriend it's so cool yes I'm drinking again and again I think that's all he does
00:46:04
yeah I'm eating lucky charms like no that guy's from Kentucky yeah exactly yeah he's like look I'm
00:46:11
really sorry yeah yeah do they even have lucky charms in Ireland probably it does like they have
00:46:20
like specialties he's going up the only things he knows is like I'm doing he like is watching
00:46:24
train spotting he's like heroin well that's now that's Scotland oh that's Scotland I haven't seen
00:46:29
sure yeah he gets it wrong she's like wait that's Scotland he's just like oh fuck and then it's
00:46:35
like back come upstairs she's like well okay honey he's he's just saying quotes from Ben she's
00:46:40
of inner Sharon yeah just like wait she watches the movie she's like that's all done okay
00:46:48
update yeah yeah the guy was Barry Keegan oh my god I mean that'd be pretty single now
00:46:57
now him Sabrina broke up uh oh she's touring and she can't with him right now wow never could have
00:47:03
so people like so what happened so what happened with that with that boyfriend she's like he starts
00:47:08
have not a real person sorry I had to all right after my post I face timed him to say what I wanted
00:47:17
to say and end things he tried to get me to postpone my trip and even tried to give me money to make
00:47:22
me less mad at him I told him whatever we had was over as I could no longer trust him he cried which
00:47:28
made me feel weird I wished him in his ex the best and ended the call I went on my trip and had
00:47:33
a top-class time the reddit community really astounds me sometimes I received a lot of private messages
00:47:38
of suggestions of things to do and see and the trip to Ireland became a trip of a lifetime yes in
00:47:43
Dublin I did meet up with a very kind redditor who showed me around the city and came with me to a
00:47:47
bunch of museums during my stay I saw amazing sights met a bunch of really cool people through my
00:47:52
travels and met a few really cute Irish boys there we go I was gonna say she gave me her own boyfriend
00:47:57
there yeah exactly I learned a lot about myself on my first solo trip abroad I am pretty self-reliant
00:48:02
and I did a lot of self-reflection this relationship was my first serious one after my ex and I split up
00:48:08
I think in my desire for closeness was someone I ignored a lot of red flags and downplayed myself worth
00:48:13
I am now focusing on making real connections with people I meet in real life and have decided to stay
00:48:17
away from anything long distance indefinitely my first night in Belfast I messaged him after I had
00:48:22
what was probably too many beers damn you delicious Irish beers and he said he was sorry but it was what
00:48:28
it had to be it didn't really seem sincere and extinguished any romantic notions I had thank you
00:48:34
to everyone who commented in private messaged me it really made me excited for my trip and it was the
00:48:38
best time oh that is the best story ever being the best story so far yeah I didn't really she was
00:48:45
gonna immediately just cut it off yeah that was extreme but hey we there might have been other
00:48:51
details it might have all added up in her head yeah she's like I need to end this well for her
00:48:55
for her I'm jealous of her I really want to go because I've heard Guinness in Ireland is it is amazing
00:49:01
yeah it tastes so good and the Guinness factory has the this bar at the top that you can see the whole
00:49:07
fucking city of Dublin cool it is really cool I really want to go do you want to come with me next time I
00:49:12
go yeah I mean I want to tell you yeah I'm gonna be there okay yeah I'm not gonna tell you that I'm
00:49:18
gonna like hey this Guinness plays pretty cool right like there he is also to all of our to all of our
00:49:25
Irish viewers I'm I'm sorry for my accent I'm not sorry yeah I will not I'm sorry okay that wasn't
00:49:32
class of you that's what they say I got to watch dairy girls oh yeah I need to watch that I need to
00:49:39
watch that then I'm gonna come back with a sick just such a good accent yeah okay it is time for
00:49:44
our last story and it comes from am I the asshole am I the asshole for leaving a couple's trip in the
00:49:51
middle of the night and ruining the vibe oh no the vibes been ruined leaving a couple's trip in the
00:49:57
middle of the night I mean ruining I'm ruining a vibe socks immediate worse than death yeah ruin the
00:50:04
vibe oh no dude no the vibe mistakes got to keep the vibe intact yeah yeah all right there's a 26
00:50:12
year old guy last weekend was my birthday me and my girlfriend of two years Kenzie who's 26 and I
00:50:18
had plans to get dinner she came to pick me up from work and her car was packed and my best friend
00:50:22
slash his wife were in the back seat to my surprise she planned a whole weekend away to my
00:50:27
favorite lake rented a sick house on the water and invited all our friends her sister slash husband
00:50:32
my friends slash their SO's and a few of Kenzie's friends all arrived Thursday night it was awesome and
00:50:38
I was stoked for the weekend we met through my best childhood friend Grace 26 Grace and Kenzie were
00:50:44
college friends and I never thought I had a chance Kenzie is beautiful and while I'm not ugly I've
00:50:50
always felt like we weren't in the same league no idea how I got her and I still don't Thursday night
00:50:56
went well Friday we swam and hung out at the house most of the day we started drinking and playing
00:51:00
games at night Kenzie's sister broke out this couple's game basically you pick one person in the
00:51:05
relationship that fits the description or it has prompts to engage in debates between couples
00:51:10
Kenzie was pretty drunk by now because she's a lightweight and was drinking most of the night
00:51:14
it was fun until a question of what originally attracted you to your SO came up Kenzie blurted out
00:51:21
he was safe and I knew he wouldn't cheat or leave me you know I think the vibe got ruined
00:51:29
right there that's the vibe has been broken the vibe has been shattered I looked at her with a face
00:51:37
and was like huh she then says yeah you seemed nice enough and after my abusive X I wanted to
00:51:43
say for option things got really awkward and her sister quickly read a different card I was really
00:51:49
embarrassed and flustered so I said I had to pee and walked outside I called Grace to tell her what
00:51:54
happened she was working and couldn't come and she got upset I told her I wanted to leave she said
00:52:00
I didn't need to take that and she would be there in the morning to get me the night died down
00:52:05
and Kenzie tried talking to me in front of everyone but I told her we'd talk about it another time
00:52:09
I decided to pack my bags and sleep on the couch and before anyone woke up I left I texted Kenzie
00:52:15
and told her that I didn't want to fight about what happened and ruined everyone's trip so I was
00:52:19
going home for the weekend and we could talk whenever she got home she blew my phone up all Saturday
00:52:24
as did a few of my friends I decided to go golfing and just turn my phone off I just didn't want to
00:52:30
talk to anyone when Kenzie showed up at my place Sunday she was fuming saying that me leaving early
00:52:35
ruined the whole trip it was all anyone could talk about and the whole vibe felt off because the
00:52:40
birthday boy was gone that she felt like a piece of shit and I didn't give her a chance to explain
00:52:45
and she hardly even remembers what she said to begin with she rented a boat I love boating and felt like
00:52:50
I disrespected her efforts slash money to put together the trip I told her that I didn't feel like
00:52:55
arguing or so I went home to avoid the drama some said that it was an asshole move to just bail
00:53:01
and I should have stayed because she put a ton of effort into the trip am I the asshole yes
00:53:06
yeah yeah I mean I mean he's kind of on some baby shit it really sucks all of that sucked
00:53:13
like there's no doubt like his feelings were obviously hard yeah rightfully so yeah and that I mean
00:53:18
that sucks to hear but you're gonna leave the whole weekend all your friends took off time to be
00:53:23
there for you you're punishing a lot of people also for what your girlfriend grace I think hey girl
00:53:29
don't get involved like that I think like I mean at the end of the day I think he felt
00:53:36
so embarrassed in front of all his friends that he couldn't stand to be around him because he's
00:53:42
probably thinking in his head they're all judging me for this yeah I just need to leave and so
00:53:48
I don't think he realized that when you just dip out on something like that your absence will be
00:53:56
all people are gonna talk about and that's gonna make everything so much worse so much worse this is
00:54:04
this it's the most dramatic move you can make yeah and to say like oh I just want to leave to
00:54:09
not cause drama like you wanted to cause maybe maybe he wasn't I think like he was in his feelings he
00:54:16
did it yeah he was probably in his feelings he did he did what he felt he needed to do to feel
00:54:21
better he went golfing sat I'm sure that was nice for him but but like when you're thinking like
00:54:30
long game with your friends like doing that is kind of a dramatic thing I don't I don't blame him
00:54:37
for wanting to leave but I think it would have been a much better idea for him to work it out there
00:54:43
and also if you didn't leave everyone would have forgot about that they would have been like oh
00:54:49
awkward they'll figure it out but yeah I don't like him less but now it's like why is he gone oh yeah
00:54:54
because he was the safe option and that's what caused this whole thing it doesn't help your
00:54:59
cause um here's what I would have done okay your partner says oh yeah you're the safe option
00:55:06
whatever it's like I'd be like okay yeah for sure everyone goes to bed that night she wakes up
00:55:11
what's that sound they go out to the lake I'm on a jet ski oh my god I hit a huge ramp yeah I land
00:55:18
on the ground to skid onto the beach slide it I'm wearing a leather jacket nothing else and you're
00:55:24
back your backwards on it your hands are on the back words on a jet ski I land they're like holy
00:55:30
shit dude you could have died that's so not it's so dangerous I'm like you're right it is dangerous
00:55:36
that was my plan all along guess I'm not to say yes I'm not that safe am I babe and she's like oh my
00:55:41
god you're right she hops into my arms we get back on the jet ski yeah just a leather jacket
00:55:46
-Just let it jacket. When are you the pooing? -When are you the pooing?
00:55:48
-Oh, yeah. -No, no, no, no, no. -Not safe. No, no, no.
00:55:54
-Push out the woods, all those twigs. -The whole thing may have been going, like, wow, sticks out.
00:55:58
-You know, I was thinking the whole time-- -Not very safe.
00:56:01
-Not very safe. -The whole time I was thinking, like, this is the perfect setup for a slasher movie.
00:56:07
-Oh, yeah. -I was thinking-- -Oh, he leaves and on the road, heading home, they get murdered,
00:56:11
and then something's on its way to the cabin.
00:56:13
-Here's what I thought he could have done or shouldn't have done. -Oh, go.
00:56:16
-Other than, like, get murdered on the way back.
00:56:18
But, like, he should have just woken up and left for the day, like, the morning,
00:56:24
done his own thing in the morning, written a note, and being like, "Hey, I just need to do some time,
00:56:29
and then come back after he cooled down." Not, like, leave fully.
00:56:33
-Yeah. -I would be really upset with him as well.
00:56:35
-He also turned off his phone. They didn't know-- -He could have been unsafe, he could have--
00:56:40
-It's true. It's true. It's just-- It was all, you know, I felt like--
00:56:44
-What I think it comes across-- -It's childish.
00:56:46
-It comes across childish. It was really inappropriate what his girlfriend said to him.
00:56:51
-Absolutely. -Yeah.
00:56:52
-But what you do is you pull her aside the next day and you go, "Hey, that was so disrespectful, so mean."
00:56:59
-Yeah. -I felt awful.
00:57:01
And also, do you still feel that way about me?
00:57:03
Because if you do, like, that changes my perspective on our relationship.
00:57:07
Like, have that serious convo, and then if you're there, you could also talk to your friends that night.
00:57:12
And be like, "She-- I can't believe she said that to me." Like, you could, like, talk to some of your friends, too, and get their perspectives.
00:57:18
And then they'd all probably be on your side and be like, "Yeah."
00:57:21
And I don't know. This could have been handled, and then we send her package.
00:57:25
-Yeah. Get out of here. -There's a tricky thing, guys, is that she was in a really abusive relationship from what he said.
00:57:34
And her first initial thought was, "Okay, this guy's safe," which I know is such a buzzkill.
00:57:41
-There's a nicer way to say it. -There's such a nicer way to say it, but she was wasted.
00:57:45
-Yeah, it's-- -No, she fucked up. She definitely fucked up.
00:57:48
-Definitely fucked up. It's definitely-- I will say, like, because I don't know if he later gets clarification from her, but, like, drunk words are sober thoughts.
00:57:59
-They really are. -But I also think we don't speak well when we're drunk.
00:58:05
-No. -So it could also be, like, "Yes, sorry. I viewed you as safe.
00:58:09
I viewed you as, like, someone who actually gave a shit about it.
00:58:11
-Like, think about it. -There's maybe some better aspects to her point of view that we're not getting because she was so drunk.
00:58:20
-Right. -Like, think about, like, this is saying the same thing.
00:58:24
He was a safe choice, and he makes me feel safe.
00:58:28
-Yes. -It's the same thing. -And I think the one is incredibly disrespectful.
00:58:33
-So true. -And one is a really sweet thing to say.
00:58:36
In her wording, it's like, "I knew he wouldn't cheat on me." It's like, "Okay, that is actually a good reason for wanting to date someone."
00:58:43
-That's not bad. -But the way she said it is such a bummer.
00:58:46
-Oh, absolutely. No. It hurt-- reading that part, like, hurts.
00:58:50
-But then he just continues to dig a hole for himself after that. -Yeah, he did.
00:58:55
-And feeling awful is, "Okay, but there's just other actions you can do."
00:58:59
-I think he was-- I think he was embarrassed to show his face to his friends.
00:59:03
-It is embarrassing. -It's really embarrassing.
00:59:07
-Comments-- well, the verdict was asshole.
00:59:11
-Okay. -Comments feels like you massively overreacted.
00:59:14
That may be the truth for the beginning, but no one stays for that reason for two years.
00:59:18
And certainly wouldn't splash all that cash and spend all that time and effort,
00:59:21
organizing such a lovely weekend for you, unless the emotions were true and deep.
00:59:25
You are not the rebound after an abusive relationship.
00:59:28
The rebound would have lasted a couple of weeks.
00:59:30
That's not to say it was hurtful, but if you care about her, work to make it right.
00:59:35
I think that's very true.
00:59:36
-Yeah. -We're-- we also-- the question was your first impression.
00:59:39
-Exactly. -And first impressions can be fucking wild in your friend.
00:59:43
-They're crazy. -Sure.
00:59:44
-Yeah. -It's so spent so much--
00:59:46
She did this whole weekend for him.
00:59:49
And he loves to boat and he couldn't even get on the boat.
00:59:51
-I know. It's so sad. -It's sad.
00:59:53
Someone said, "You're the asshole. You'd seriously bail on a birthday weekend
00:59:56
in front of all your mutual friends because two years earlier,
00:59:59
she felt you were a safe option."
01:00:01
It seemed to work out.
01:00:02
She went all out for you for your birthday.
01:00:04
If you bailed over something so seemingly ridiculous,
01:00:07
what would you do when you-- when you face actual tough times together?
01:00:11
You won't discuss it. You'll just run away.
01:00:13
-Yep. -Absolutely.
01:00:14
No, this is a huge red flag. -Love that.
01:00:16
It's like-- what she said is-- it's like I said.
01:00:19
I'm like, "Oh, that would hurt me."
01:00:21
But it is minuscule compared to what a lot of couples go through at some point.
01:00:27
And it's like he kind of showed himself there.
01:00:29
-Yep. -And it is a scary thing.
01:00:31
Bailing-- it's a hard thing to get over.
01:00:34
You know, especially if she went through a bad relationship before,
01:00:38
she's seeing this and probably going to be like, "Oh, well."
01:00:41
-Yeah. -And yeah, and he left her.
01:00:42
I do-- what I do think about that one comment is true,
01:00:45
is that while you left her there alone with all the friends,
01:00:49
and they have nothing to talk about,
01:00:51
but you who are-- is gone and ghosted and not responding.
01:00:54
So you probably damaged your relationship with everyone.
01:00:58
-Yeah. -Shit's about to get talked.
01:00:59
I mean, look, I think in relationships, the response is to communicate always.
01:01:03
-Yeah. -And he chose to do the polar opposite of it.
01:01:06
And I just-- it's not always that I think you're wrong or you're bad.
01:01:10
I just think it's going to make things worse.
01:01:12
It's legitimately, like, self-sabotage.
01:01:14
-Totally. -Yeah.
01:01:15
Because it's clearly extremely insecure about this whole thing
01:01:18
and his-- and his choices to run away.
01:01:21
-Yeah. -I wonder if, in his head,
01:01:23
he thought he was going to do this, and everyone was going to feel so bad.
01:01:26
And be like, "Oh, my God, this poor guy." -Oh, my God, this poor guy, yeah.
01:01:29
-Wow. -Oh.
01:01:31
-He's such a hero. In fact, he's not safe.
01:01:33
He's so dangerous for leaving. -I can't do that.
01:01:37
You just do that. -What a risk taker.
01:01:38
-Because when your brain tells you to do things like that,
01:01:41
the result is never going to be what your brain thinks it's going to be.
01:01:44
-Yeah. -You just need to communicate.
01:01:46
-Well-- -You want a jet ski, and just a leather coat.
01:01:49
It's something that-- -Just a leather jacket.
01:01:51
-But you've got to admit-- you've got to admit,
01:01:54
had he done that, the situation would be better than where it's at now.
01:01:58
-And you're like, "How did you do that?"
01:02:00
-Tell me the situation would not be better.
01:02:02
-If he hits a wave, and he's sitting on that craft.
01:02:06
-That's not. -Dangerous.
01:02:07
-That craft. -That craft.
01:02:08
-Right, it's not safe. -Watercraft?
01:02:11
-They wake up the next morning. It's like his balls have exploded.
01:02:13
-Yeah, dude. That's not good. -He said he can't eat just that balls.
01:02:16
-Also, do you drape like one ball?
01:02:20
-Do you drape one ball to one side, one ball to the other side of the thing that you're on?
01:02:24
-Oh, my god, he's ballless and safe.
01:02:26
-Do you suck them up before you get on it?
01:02:31
-I have a lot of questions. -Okay.
01:02:33
-Naked jet skiing.
01:02:34
-Look, I've never jet skied before.
01:02:37
-What?
01:02:38
-Dude, you're such a safe guy. -Hey, everyone in this room just lost their mind.
01:02:42
-I didn't. I just stared at you.
01:02:44
-I've actually-- -No, I've never jet skied.
01:02:45
-I'm not. -It's a blast, and also terrifying.
01:02:48
-Sure. -Number jet ski. Do you want to?
01:02:50
-Yes, sure. -Get out there, buddy.
01:02:52
-I've never had the opportunity.
01:02:53
-Jet ski is one of those things where it's like, you're on you like,
01:02:56
"Oh, my god, I'm having so much fun."
01:02:58
And then after like 15 minutes, you're like, "It's the same thing."
01:03:02
-Oh, my whole body hurts.
01:03:04
-My family-- I've hardly spent time at lakes.
01:03:09
-Okay, fair. -You can jet ski in the ocean.
01:03:12
-I know, but when we went to the ocean,
01:03:14
we were like scuba diving or like snorkeling and stuff.
01:03:17
We never-- we weren't like a jet ski family.
01:03:19
-Yeah. We got to take you to a lake for your birthday.
01:03:22
-Yeah. -You want to go on your birthday?
01:03:23
But you want to go to your birthday?
01:03:25
-Let's go to this. Let's go where they went.
01:03:27
-I did jet skiing up at Big Bear.
01:03:29
We can go Big Bear.
01:03:30
-You want to go Big Bear? -You want to go Big Bear?
01:03:33
-I mean, jet ski. -Yeah, there's a lake.
01:03:34
-There's a lake. -There's a lake at Big Bear Lake.
01:03:37
-Yeah.
01:03:38
-Whoa, someone hasn't traveled them, right?
01:03:40
-No, one at Big Bear Lake. -Oh, whoa.
01:03:43
-Okay. -Okay.
01:03:45
Thank you for watching. Let us know what other themes and
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Let me know your opinions on some of these stories,
01:03:51
because these were some wild ones.
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And we'll see you next Saturday.
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